Draft:Gynocracies

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It is a place where women rule.
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1461371

Hi folks. Long time listener, first time caller. (i.e. I registered today and this is my first thread.)

Note: I mention children in this post, but in conformity to the rules here, they are not depicted as having or witnessing sex.

Okay it's not a place like ones depicted in stories such as Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death. My inspiration in more of Israel—or, however bad and only to a small extent, Islamic State.

It started the late 1940's: when countries like India and Pakistan got their independence, and Israel came into existence. An area of land—say a fraction of Israel's size, but which is still significant, was more-or-less secured by feminists/proto-feminists who declared a country or country-of-sorts—likely more peacefully than the other two entities—and invited women around the world to join them. (At least 1% of 1% of them did.)

Seventy years later, it's doing well with over a million people. Most of them are female: definitely over 95%, 98%, 99%, or the like, of those over 12, are female.

There's a president—obviously female—who lives with three other women. Like many others, she practices separatist lesbianism: most of the women there don't buy into the whole "born-this-way" theory of homosexuality, and while they don't hate transwomen—indeed many consider them better than men—they are nonetheless treated as second-classed citizens, as are men.

This country/country-of-sorts has it's own industries, media, armed forces, and airline. Children are being taught woman-centric constructed languages ["conlangs" such as Esperanto, Lojban, Klingon, etc: one which is now spoken fluently by about 5-15% of the women under 24.

They are surrounded by countries whose people have traditional religious views, and they've been getting female refugees. As they aren't expansionist, they have fewer enemies, though, and some of the women have even bought properties in such countries.

Women like Angela Merkel, Tokako Doi, and Hillary Clinton have visited this place and have been photographed with the president, who tries to make it look that they were state-sponsored visits.

Men?

Again, a few are allowed. There is a small geo-discontiguous district less than 100 km away from the country/country-of-sorts where husbands/boyfriends, sons, and even fathers are allowed to live: the women in their lives either visiting them during weekends or the women doing the daily commute to the grand feminine city. America has the Statue of Liberty, they have the Statues of Women (who, of course, are much higher—maybe twice as high): which can be seen in such commutes.

A few millionaire men live in this city of women, and there's even a Catholic church with a few priests: though at times one needed state permission to worship there and proselyting is very limited.

Men are safe, though they should know their places. For example, some stores and restaurants don't allow men, or have conditions such as they have to be accompanied by women. When a man gets on a bus, he generally has to be blindfolded or hooded so he won't look at the women and get naughty thoughts: though long-term male residents, boys, and transwomen are exempted.

Now, as reported, there are a few, relatively very small, places in this country/country-of-sorts where men walk around naked, engage in public acts of femdom BDSM, have sex with each other—at time solely to amuse women who are into such, but those are select areas: and not general. First of all, children need to be protected from such. Ditto many women. For some, even 10 000 men in the country/country-of-sorts is too much; and the sight of a naked man?!? Disgusting! Men should be dressed conservatively: except maybe in those small designated places where those sister-citizens who rather look at naked men, and engage in sexual play and even heterosexual sex with such men, as oppose to more wholesome forms of lovemaking, can do so.

I've given it a bit of thought and have several other ideas, but I welcome questions, comments, and suggestions.

The story, as almost all of my stories, is a third person POV, though I'm making it as a visit by a somewhat conservative—at least in appearances—prominent anchor/journalist of a major TV network (American and/or internationally known): his name and the name of the network fictionalized. He will be accompanied by a young attractive colleague who was very recently promoted from entertainment to news—his potential successor: though young enough as not to be a threat before his retirement; as well as two female photographers.

I don't intend for him to have sex in this area, but again, I'm open to ideas. The women? of course!

Also, are there stories in Literotica like what I'm thinking of for comparison?

I see that Literotica has a non-erotic tag, and in some of the parts of the story I might include such.

To divulge more, I'm thinking more of Islamic countries—like Israel's neighbours. I'm thinking Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia. In the 1940s, things in many of those places were in flux and the Islamacists (at least the modern types we've come to hear about), if any, were nascent. By the time they have gotten powerful and threatening, the women's country/country-of-sorts was also strong. For Israelis it's a religio-tribal thing. For the women, it's a sisterhood thing: some have been intimately acquainted with male oppression and would rather die than suffer it again.

As for male babies, I'm still thinking that out. Some ideas—and the women's country/country-of-sorts might practice a few of these:


 * the aforementioned commuting
 * sex-selected abortions
 * medical therapies to increase the chances that children would be girls

I've also thought of transgenderism, though these women insist on it being serious. I'm thinking castration, but as I know little about gender-reassignment, I'm not sure.

Currently my rule is boys have to leave around 6 to 12 years of age—a boy with two blood sisters gets to stay until he's 12 (and 2 brothers need 4 blood sisters), with one it's until he's 9, and with none then it's 6. Between that and his 18th birthday, where does he go? I've thought of transgirls. Such is somewhat happening in society, but again, Literotica rules re depictions of minors.

Another are switcheroos. In many countries, boys are favoured over girls; in the women's country/country-of-sorts the reverse is true. So imagine a couple from a traditional country are trying to have a son because, for among other reasons, the head of the house needs a son to carry the name and someone to escort his daughters when they're in public when he's gone. Meanwhile, in the country/country-of-sorts a woman in a separatist-lesbian couple/polyamorous-group—impregnated either artificially or with a few male studs—the latter generally in the previously mentioned small districts—bore a son. Fine while gender dimorphism isn't as pronounced, but as he gets older others might not want their daughters at that couple/group's house—after all, he'll soon be turning into a man and that's discomforting: and really, do we really want a boy to grow up in a place where males—or at least many male—really don't belong?

Hence the switcheroo. I was even thinking of a ritual where the former gives up their baby girl to the latter and the latter give up their baby boy to the former.

This way there's a bit of a, I think they called it in Rome, imperial hostage situation. The traditional couple will raise the boy well not only because they love him, but also they know their bio-daughter is being raised by women who while might be infidels, at least love the feminine. Ditto the reverse: the son might be indoctrinated in the patriarchal society, but at least he won't be looked down on for being male. There might even be rare visits and when they get old enough, a romance between the boy-now-man and girl-now-woman.

I suppose like stereotypical Jews, while some of these women are Marxists, some are quite the entreprenuers and businesswomen. I've thought of creating districts within the district to accommodate these differences and serve as tests—political laboratories. I've thought Communist, hardcore capitalism, more extreme radical feminism—a parody of fascism perhaps (or perhaps more a parody than the country/country-of-sorts in general might be), and a weird form of femino-Islam—perhaps to women what the Nation of Islam is to blacks.

Gambling? Possibly—but only for male tourists or rich women.

Tourism? The rule of thumb I'm currently using is no more than 1% men. That's about 10 000. In that quota there might be 2000 set aside for male visitors who pay for the right to be in this country/country-of-sorts. If the cost is $100 000 a year per slot, that'd be $2000 a week: meaning up to and perhaps more than 500 000 male visitors but only 2000 at any given time. I suppose many a man in the world would pay $2000—even on top of other costs—to go to a place for a week where +99% of the adults are women.

Keep in mind, while public male nudity is restricted to the small areas, things like toplessness is not uncommon—a lot of guys would like that—which is why I kind of prefer more temperate climates.

As for gays, because the origins of this place go back to the 1940s and the women tended to be indifferent, and the proportion of permitted men was higher back then—say about 15%-20%, there is a bit of a gay district. While many of the women regard men fucking women as generally oppressive—though less so if perhaps the men are tied down, the idea of men fucking men is one many of the women have regarded/regard, even decades earlier, with either indifference or amusement.

Drugs are restricted, but it's not as bad as the US. Female addicts are treated as ill and not criminals, though because they are indifferent to the lives of men, some male drug tourists can go to certain places and drug themselves to their hearts' content with profitably-priced drugs provided by the state. Also male pit-fighting might be allowed, perhaps with primitive weapons: though if allowed, hefty deposits have to be put up for medical expenses and estates. Some women would want race quotas—more white men fighting each other—more PC/less-not-PC.

There's also some medical tourism. Let's say there is a man who lost his testicles in an accident and has no intention of living there, while another who wants to become a transwoman because of the typical reasons men want this, he's wants to return to the country/country-of-sorts, his place of origin is bad, and/or he's such a male feminist that he wants to drastically reduce his natural desire to dominate women. Both can go to a hospital for men in this place and a live transplant can be made. Men can also sell organs to women.

While prostitution isn't illegal, it is tightly regulated. Basically, women visitors can dominate male prostitutes while men can be dominated by prostitutes, with taxes so hefty for the reverse it's generally not worth it. If a man wants to perform cunnilingus, he need only, say, pay the equivalent of US$20 tax. If he wants a blowjob, it's perhaps $1000—double if he's not tied down—which perhaps pays for a government bureaucrat to watch the cunnilingus—make sure the oral sex isn't reciprocated or something like it. With male prostitutes with male clients and female prostitutes with female clients, the taxes are somewhere in-between.

At least until the internet came along, there was a bit of a lesbian and femdom porn industry.

Last, but not least, kinda like Israel—at least in its early days, during the Cold War, they kind of played both sides. If there are Communist and capitalist districts, they might have gotten lots of funding from their respective sponsors. The country/country-of-sorts also has a lot of foreign agents: CIA, KGB/GRU, Mossad, et al, though mostly sleepers with large caches of weapons should any of the neighbours get both aggressive with the country/country-of-sorts and theirs. (I wonder what would happen if a CIA agent lived in a Yedzidi town, and just before Islamic State swooped in, he opened a cache of hundreds of guns and ammo for the inhabitants—even zip guns—for them to defend themselves. They still likely would have lost but it would have made the invasion harder: IS would have been bled a bit more with a strategic benefit to Washington. (Who knows: such might have happened.;))

The Handmaid's Tale "Fanfix"
I've been working on some THT fan-fiction-of-sorts: ideas and comments solicited—spent several 10s of hours on it.

1. I haven't read the book nor seen any episode—don't really want to—looks stupid, boring, with too much torture porn—I've created a thread about it in GB.

2. I've seen a lot of YT videos about it as well as read reviews, heard Atwood in interviews, and saw the movie years ago.

3. While I'll likely post most of my fan-fiction-of-sorts in FFN, AO3, and a Mirahaze wiki I created, I might try to post some in Literotica. (and no, it definitely ain't for commercial reasons)

In my narrative, in my "canon", so far, Trump gets re-elected, then Pence wins, then someone as left-wing as Bernie gets elected.

During this time, infertility—either in the world or just US—affects +90%, +95%, +98%, or +99% of people because of something-something-environmental-stuff.

Then the Sons of Jacob attack.

Then it's like mind-control or something: around 3/4 of the US become pro-Gilead, including the military—though maybe less so them—because of something-something-social-change-increased-conservatism-religion-something-something-people-are-desperate-something-something.

I also make it that Gilead-style-coups are attempted in other countries, because Americans aren't the only ones gullible to religious extremism. I'm even thinking Canada. I guess as I live in Toronto, it might go under Canadian Gileadans (pre-1998 City of Toronto area, that is—maybe in Malton I might have gangs of Sikhs prowling the streets looking for Gileadans to stab, slash, and shoot. The Gileadan presence doesn't take as much of Canada, they're driven out in a few years, and the prime minister during the SoJ attack is still PM. I might even make Canada the 3rd, maybe 2nd, richest country in the western hemisphere.

Now I don't want to write about a few billion dying due to nuclear winter, so I want to limit the nuclear exchanges; and I'm going to make Gilead as killing more—because that's what revolutionaries tend to do it seems.

But still, I have to drastically reduce the nuclear capability of US and particularly Gilead.

I might have the strategic bomber command or whatever destroyed in infighting between US and Gilead. I've figured out a way of destroying most of the ICBMs without affecting the world (much). Presumably as the SSNBs are underwater, US and it's allies can get to them before their captains do the arms-stretch-out-"I-hear-Gilead-and-I-obey" thing.

Now during this time many are ticked at the US government for essentially allowing Gilead to happen, so instead of two governments claiming the US, we have several. I'm probably going to have republics of California, Texas, and Florida. Utah will probably also become its own entity.

Russia gets involved, seeing Gilead as an existential threat. I want Gilead to be afraid of Russian threats to use nukes on them. Millions of Americans live in Canada, including 100 000s of soldiers. In bi-lateral talks, a Chinese delegate literally slaps out a Gileadan delegate—essentially in a "where's-the-trillion-you-owe-us-biatch!" (saying it to a guy). (or as a person IRL who heard me explain it said, "You no mess with the Wongs!")

Many of my stories occur in "rebel" areas—as if Gilead itself wasn't a rebel state. I've got one run by hardcore communists, one run by a mutant (political, that is) strain of hardcore feminists, and even one run by Islamacists ("Death to the Gileadan Satan! Allāh Akbar!). I'd do one about the black bantustans but I'm not too hip on black culture—cultural appropriation and all of that. Ditto the Republics in terms of many fact-checkers possibly being as pedantic about their parts of the US as I am of Toronto, Ontario, and Canada.

As for the sex, I won't be using original characters and things might be so divergent, I might as well create my own story—though I'm not sure I can write dystopias as I think the near future for the US looks pretty good—it's mostly due to the eminence of THT and all the "Trump's America is like Gilead" talk (note: I'm anti-Trump—though not viscerally so)—so there won't be a lot of Nick-June-Luke-Syrena fru-fru.

In the area run by my strain of hardcore feminists, I could obviously have a lot of separatist lesbianism going on—fight together, fuck together. In a few stories, I have CFNF going on as the castes are reversed: unwomen, hardened by life in the colonies—feminists, female gangsters, and female vets rubbing shoulders—learning to help each other, are on the top; wives and "aunts" are on the bottom. Some men will be allowed in.

I'm also working on some women who go to Alaska—likely the US part—though +70% is now part of the Republic of Alaska, and make a new life. When I think of it, this song comes in mind (the song rather than the lyrics or video) and this.

''"Let's celebrate all the battles that we've won. Today is one of those days that we say it's alright, it's okay." "We dance with no fear."''

I'm working on a road trip taking place in Gilead in a carjacked Eye van, with a misanthropic former unwoman with bombs and assault rifle, and a snarky character that Liam Neeson might play, but because he's also a badass who's fucked up Gilead, there's some mutual respect—he's not shot or beaten, tied-up, gagged, and thrown in the trunk with an "aunt" and "eye". Probably no sex between them though—she might rather the two shy handmaids in the backseat that she and her soul sisters liberated—the handmaids being somewhat incidental in the mission—and had to strip down to their undies because the female badass doesn't like that handmaid shit on them. Maybe he and she have do a bit of locker room talk, and openly talk shit about Gilead, while the shy handmaids listen—and after they witnessed her savagely beat the "aunt" before throwing her in the trunk.

I don't know if I should go even more trope-y and have her vaping, drinking shots of hootch from bottle—she and her soul sisters got when they did a home invasion of a Commander's house—oooooo she's such a badass!—and high on amphetamines—maybe smokes cigars.

Comments welcomed. :)

I've watched these more than once:

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DYSTOPIAS - Terrible Writing Advice 4:09

Trope Talk: Dystopias (with special guest Hello Future Me!!) 23:28

Okay,

I have about 4 to 8 stories that are perhaps +80% done. A few take a few pages, one is over 20 pages—much of it dialogue between the female badass and male badass while a guard they took as prisoner is going down the highway, while all see evidence of resistance—including bottles thrown at them—they being in an Eye car, though the story starts with a lot of action—the carjacking of a humvee-like vehicle, which involves a suicide-bombing-of-sorts.

I'm not too big on plots in stories, but I love world-building—so the Tolkien reference is probably justified.

I've thought of making audios, though given I'm an amateur, that might be a few more 10s of hours of editing—either my own voice or getting a woman to do it—what's the going rate? $10-$20 an hour? She reads it a few times out loud and I spend most of the time editing?

It's also why I got a wiki going: a "Fiction:" namespace for the actual fiction and the world building in the mainspace. The former would be narratives, while the latter would be pseudo-encyclopedic entries about places, characters, events. I could then lop off a lot of content in my stories for the pseudo-articles, and replace them with internal links.

Hey, we're in the 21st, not 19th century: might as well use the technology.

As for the Bound Heat, while I luvs my lesbian porn, I'm less into explicit BDSM—at least nipple-clamps, orgasm denial, restraints, typical stuff it seems, etc. (Btw, almost all of the lesbian BDSM I watch are tickling—light fun stuff.)

It's a bit of an Anti-Gilead. I'm even thinking of an "anti-Aunt Lydia"—a big-boned plain-looker with a bit of an Irish accent—who reforms former wives taken prisoner. It's CFNF, blue dog collars and tags, maybe a head shave begins the prisoner's stay—one time only though—the length of hair signifying the time she's been there and thus how likely reformed. Those are the lucky ones, the rest of the wives get sacrificed in a quasi-pagan ritual—though nothing too gorey.

In my CMNF writings, many of my naked women aren't involved in BDSM, and I'm not too much into ENF, and even less into OON.

In the CFNF, about 40% of the women are "citizens"—mostly soldiers or those with necessary skills who are clothed. The others are naked to incentivize them to fight. Any woman from Gilead seeking refuge will be taken in, fed, given shelter, encouragement, and counseling, but on her second new moon there, she has to get naked unless she's willing to fight. They aren't hated—Gilead traumatizes women and different women react in different ways, including an aversion to fighting—you don't want to fight, you don't have to, but their new society is under siege, and the more volunteers, the better.

Handmaids are seen as unlucky compared to wives and marthas, but also a bit lucky. In this society I created, they are also regarded as lucky/unlucky. The citizens, many being former unwomen, econowives, and jezebels, occasionally see the handmaids as having had it a bit easy. Oh they will help and will sympathize, but they have little tolerance for things like indecisiveness. June Osborne might get smacked on the head for talking about Hannah. "Don't you think we lost our children? Stop fucking try to work in their system, bitch! Hannah's gone! The best way to save her is through us!"

(Kinda reflective of my own views.)

At risk of being anti-femininity, some of the citizens act like (some) men—feeling entitled because, hey, they can't be sexists being women themselves, at least Gilead-fighting women: hence some moral licensing, and hence catcalls, rec centers that can look like strip clubs, maybe inappropriate touching, etc. Maybe I should call it, "The Wife's Tale" or something like it.

At any rate, if you got this far into this post, thanks again. :)

Should I bother reading and/or watching The Handmaid's Tale?